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socuban
12-30-2007, 12:26 PM
So I drop my M109R off for the first 600 mile service to Palm Beach Cycle several weeks ago. They change the oil, grease the joints and off I go. 200 miles later, the engine pucks up some oil so I bring it back.

They adjusted the oil level, cleaned up the bike and off I go, again. Take a 300 mile run with no problems.

Last week I go for a short run and the bike pukes up oil again. Take it back to the dealer and they tell me they need to adjust the oil level, again. I spoke to the tech that did the oil change and adjustments and he tells me the bikes are new and they are trying to "master" the oil change procedure:confused: The tech tells me the 2 bikes that give him trouble are mine and a black one.

At $89/hour, I would think these guys would have practiced on a none customer bike first, yea right.

I think I'll master the oil change procedure myself and start charging $45/hour:cool:

Jim
12-30-2007, 01:42 PM
Yes the dumb asses will over fill it. Its best just to change the oil your self. I did let them do the 600 mile because if the warranty but I check the level before I left the dealer.
:cool:

Mack Dog
12-30-2007, 02:51 PM
The last time the dealership saw my bike was when I picked it up when i bought it. They cannot void your warranty by not going in for the 600mi service. As long as you have receipts your covered. Besides the oilchange they don't do much else. My buddy took his 9 in for the 600mi service and they did'nt even adjust his clutch.

SpaceCaveman
12-30-2007, 10:23 PM
Not even to mention that most dealers use bulk oil which is who knows what quality. So in some cases they may say do you want synthetic or regular and you end up with whatever the tech put in. At least if you do it yourself you know what is in your bike. Of course if you have two blocks for hands than better to pay someone else.:)
JOHN

Jim
01-03-2008, 06:06 PM
I'm getting ready to buy some oil guess the way to go is Amsoil and factory filter. :cool:

Mack Dog
01-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Use Amsoil and the amsoil filter 8,000 mi change intervals. GOD BLESS MACK

Mike1
01-07-2008, 03:45 PM
I know I'm Late on this topic, however you M U S T run the bike for @ least fifteen minutes let rest for three then check the oil. I also heard that you should use a blend instead a full synthetic. I know three good bike mechanics and they all told me this on separate occasions.:)

lavastone
02-01-2008, 08:15 PM
Those damn dealers!! They overfilled mine from the first change too and ticked me off. That is a bunch of horse hockey they told you about the 600 mile "break-in" thing....the rule of thumb is (and this comes right from my service manual on the 9) is 3.8 U.S. quarts with filter change and 3.6 with no filter change.....make good and sure and allow plenty of time after about a 4 minute warm up to let all the oil out of the two drain plugs....I even sit on mine holding the front brake and rock the bike for and aft gently to "shake" the remaining residual lube out.....then replace the plugs and put in 3 quarts. I then run the bike for 15 minutes at idle to circulate the new lube thouroughly and shut off the bike and let it sit for at least 3 minutes. Upright the bike straight up and pull and wipe the stick, put it back in the hole to wear the threads touch the top...do not thread back in for your read...and then add a little by the ounce until your stick reads somewhere between the top or full line and the bottom line....that should measure between 3.4 and 3.8 quarts. I found oil in one of my breather pods after the dealer overfilled mine. Use the procedure I stated in this thread and all should be just fine. Lavastone.

lavastone
02-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Right on man....you're right about the blend......the only way to go. I use Castrol 10-40 blend in mine and it works very very well.

BigDave
03-26-2008, 10:01 PM
Lavastone is on the money. I've dealt with the same dealer for 20 years. One
of the techs there told me that him and another tech went to school for the 109.

Jim
04-16-2008, 02:39 PM
Did the second oil change last night the first one was by the dealer. We did both mine and my friends 109 at the same time. We lifted the bikes about one inch off the ground by using some boards one under each of the tires and one under the kick stand. This was a big help and made the job easy, the only thing is next time I will have the socket style oil filter wrench. The only one I had was the band type and the only way to remove the filter was by removing the lower cowling. I was lucky and did not break any of the plastic but next time will have the right tool.

The oil I used was 10w-40 Royal Purple Motorcycle blend
My friend Tim used Suzuki oil

I will post later on how both bikes shift i just wanted to try a different oil :cool:

Jim
05-24-2008, 06:57 PM
I know I'm Late on this topic, however you M U S T run the bike for @ least fifteen minutes let rest for three then check the oil. I also heard that you should use a blend instead a full synthetic. I know three good bike mechanics and they all told me this on separate occasions.:)


this is all true if you use synthetic you better dam well check the oil level offen. I'm going to stick with syntheic the bke seems to shift better:cool:

highlander
08-10-2009, 10:17 PM
I just bought a s50 boulevard a woman had bought new,took home and did not ride,really. It had 183 miles on it. Now on August 9th, 2009 it has 1012 miles.I have had the bike ten days and has oil from the dealer in it. In some of my previous bikes I have used Amsoil full synthetic 10w40 and was very happy with it.Any opinions about using this oil in my S50 boulevard?

Jim
08-11-2009, 06:41 AM
Amsoil is one of the best oils on the market does the motorcycle shift better now?